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The very first Entry: "Meekness and HumilityGod's Cure for Pride, Haughtiness, and Egotism" by Gospel Way.
It is good but loads of words or complicated. Not my life style. But read it any way if you like.
To start with the learned authour (What is the proper spelling. Is this the old English authour and author is Americanised ...quarrrrrrch theuip....who is misspelling) says:
"Why should people be meek and humble? What problems are caused by pride, arrogance, ego, self-exaltation, haughtiness, and self-will? Should you learn self-assertiveness, or should you learn not to be proud and haughty? What does the Bible teach about meekness, humility, gentleness, and lowliness in contrast to pride, selfishness, self-will, and arrogance?"
Why should the messenger of God, Jesus, hide behind with all contradictory words, may I a humble dimwit ask?
I can see why? I put "meek" into the "OneLook Reverse Dictionary"
Darned right that we should have so many meanings, to keep the religious beliefs complicated. If you check the meanings of all the words mentioned in the last link you will see that some words "dismean" each other. And then the authour compares Jesus and Moses to all of us to say that, they were the meekest people ever lived. Good on Jesus; I cannot see him as a war mongering person who wanted bad things happen to other people. But Moses with the help of the Jewish God planned very nasty things to happen to the Egyptians et al, who beleaved in other Gods. So I cannot take Moses as a meek person even though Bible says so. Everything written in the good book is not true. We all know that.
So from the article:
"Definitions:
Meekness
This is an extremely difficult word to translate into English, because we think "meek" implies weakness. Sometimes it is translated (NKJV) "gentleness," but that also implies weakness.
The best way to know the meaning of a word is to study passages where it is used. As we do, we will see meekness is an attitude or quality of heart [1 Peter 3:4] whereby a person willingly accepts and submits without resistance to the will and desires of someone else. The meek person is not self-willed - not continually concerned with self, his own ways, ideas, and wishes. He is willing to put himself in second place and submit himself to achieve what is good for others. Meekness is the opposite of self-will, self-interest, and self-assertiveness.
This is a sign, not of weakness of character (as some think), but of strength. It requires great self-control to submit to others.
Humility
This is an attitude or quality of mind [Acts 20:19] whereby a person holds low esteem or opinion of his own goodness and importance. Spiritually, one abases himself because he realizes his sinfulness and therefore he is willing to depend on God to meet His needs. It is the opposite of pride, haughtiness, and self-exaltation."
Of course it is difficult to translate into a language like English, which started 1000's of years after the Bible was written, and updated. Why do we always think of a meek person as a weak person. Someone who does not have a will and will succumb to the other's will. No mate think about it; you find the answer.
I still don't beleave in the theory of an underdog winning the race; bleeding fantasising "romanticity". As the authour says:
"This is a sign, not of weakness of character (as some think), but of strength. It requires great self-control to submit to others. "
These prophets were highly dialectic people who can easily see all sides of an argument. So when they say something they want it to be very basic and simple. So that anyone can understand and there is no basis for debate.
Now if we think about it where the fuck are we?
Tinckle Bell side.
Luke 18:9-14: Pure political stuff this? Do you know The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector? Well for the uninitiated to this kind of stimulus, here it is again:
"To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable:
Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself:
'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said,
'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'
I tell you that the Tax Collector, rather than the Pharisee, went home justified before God.
For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
No way an exalted person like Jesus will say this political stuff; he was trying to get the masses out of the demon Judaism.
Now take the meaning of the word "Pharisee":
"Quick definitions (Pharisee)
noun: a member of an ancient Jewish sect noted for strict obedience to Jewish traditions
noun: a self-righteous or sanctimonious person"
Yeah a person who did not like the present system and trying to bring in a revolution; Jesus. Telling stories about the opposition. OK if he said that, would you consider him a meek person? The question we are raising in this article? Me says no; as if, his mode of thought is true, then he would have been a nasty person by its own definition. Jesus did not mean that.
1 John 1:8
I don't understand why this is thrown in here except as a red herring. here is the stuff:
"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us."
or
1 John 1:10
"If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives."
Here I am the biggest liar of all, as I do not have sins. And I am proud of it. My phylosophy is simply this.
Since, I was born everything I did in my life was the right thing at the right time to be here right now. You cannot escape that.
So I am just politely say you the Authour is fucked.
Now the authour brings in another part of the bible: Matthew 18:1-4: which says:
"The Greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven
At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?"
He called a little child and had him stand among them.
And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven."
That is easy to explain in simple terms. A child has not been spoilt by the society to become some one in the likes of us (don't tell Uncle Joe about this stuff). He/She has not learned the conniving, despicable thought processes you and I go through before we decide on any thing. Yeah I understand that. Yeah we can see that now can't we? So the child is a person who we can take as a meek person? Can we?
We all have needs and wants. All my needs are satisfied as I write this. If I need anything I will be going about to satisfy my need, rather than sitting here and writing. Anything I want is just a dream. Now I call a meek person who lives just within his needs and do not do any further pursuits.
So can a rich man be meek? I say, of course he/she can. If that rich person is not trying to get richer, and use her/his richness to make other people happy and keep what ever he got; she/he is a meek person and can go to heavon.
Do you beleave in something better than this instant? And think about what can be worse? Then you already are in heavon.
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