Saturday, March 01, 2008

Ben Griffin, Eric Estenzo & tHE bAD aPPLES

At last some good humans in the armed forces are breaking ranks annd breaking out in the news..

"Ben Griffin, the ex-SAS trooper who this week revealed the extensive British collaboration with US rendition and torture, was served with an injunction immediately after speaking at the London World Against War rally last night. The government is trying to gag Ben to prevent any more revelations about British involvement in the US policy of kidnapping people and sending them to secret centres for interrogation and torture."

That was about UK and now about US:

"U.S. veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are planning to descend on Washington from Mar. 13-16 to testify about war crimes they committed or personally witnessed in those countries.

"The war in Iraq is not covered to its potential because of how dangerous it is for reporters to cover it," said Liam Madden, a former Marine and member of the group Iraq Veterans Against the War. "That's left a lot of misconceptions in the minds of the American public about what the true nature of military occupation looks like."

Iraq Veterans Against the War argues that well-publicised incidents of U.S. brutality like the Abu Ghraib prison scandal and the massacre of an entire family of Iraqis in the town of Haditha are not the isolated incidents perpetrated by "a few bad apples", as many politicians and military leaders have claimed. They are part of a pattern, the group says, of "an increasingly bloody occupation"."


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19442.htm
http://ivaw.org/index.php

Then there is this boffin who did an experiment in 1970's, where in Stanford University students did a role play with some students as prisoners and others as wardens. The experiment went bad because the wardens became very sadistic and the prisoners very cowed and was called off early for the concern for the students.
Now he comes into this argument about torture in prisons and says hat it is not a few bad apples but the prisons were left without oversight by higher ranking officers not by accident but intentional.

"“If you give people power without oversight it is a formula for abuse,” Zimbardo said to a stunned audience the included famous actors, entrepreneurs and politicians"

“Abu Ghraib abuses went on for three months … Who was watching the store? Nobody, and it was on purpose.”


http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/29/7370/

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